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welcome to the skeptic Zone the podcast

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from Australia for science and reason

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yes it's the skeptic Zone podcast

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episode number

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741 for the 18th of December 2022

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Richard Saunders coming to you this week

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from the Bay Area San Francisco coming

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up on this week's show part one of a

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two-part interview with my old friend Dr

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Eugenie Scott and Eugenie and I talk

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about the anniversary of kids miller vs

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Dover a very important case in the

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ongoing story of a battle between

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creationists intelligent designers

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and science

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although Jeannie looks at the impact of

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various religious outlooks on the public

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school system

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it's always good to be here in the Bay

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Area but thank my lucky stars I think my

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lucky stars

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or lucky something

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what good luck I had many years ago to

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meet Eugenie Scott and become friends

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thank you Genie for uh

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for looking after me for a few days

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following that it's the Australian

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Skeptics newsletter read once again by

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Adrian Hill and this week it's a little

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longer than normal because Tim Mendham

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who writes the newsletter was very busy

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and found lots of interesting stories

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then to round off the show it's back to

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the Trove archives and this week we look

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at Crystal healing Crystal power crystal

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one of the classics of the new age

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but now it's time for me to walk around

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the corner in my little apartment here

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look into the kitchen and have some

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American coffee while I do that I hope

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you enjoy the skeptic Zone

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[Music]

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Eugenie Scott is admiring my microphones

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this is a message for Susan gerbig who

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listens to this show and always laughs

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at me because I've got hello Genie hi

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there how are you and Susan this isn't a

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completely new microphone as he

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explained but it does have some new

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bells and whistles so yeah situation

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normal Richard's back

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and it's just a reminder to those lovely

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people who support the skeptic Zone that

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your money does go to good use as I was

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just explaining the microphone to Genie

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and I could see her she was um admiring

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the sophisticated equipment this is the

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rode Wireless go I don't get any money

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from the road company but this is the

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microphone we're using at the moment

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wonderful to see you again it is lovely

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to have you back on this back State Side

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Stateside here I am and this is my

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favorite time of the year to be in the

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Bay Area nice December weather yeah

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because you don't like it hot in

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let's just switch houses some year okay

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because I don't like the cold right and

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you don't like the hot so you can come

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here and stay here and get the nice cool

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you know 40 50 60 degree Northern

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Sydney well it's it's not the baking so

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much it's the the humidity that does my

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head in oh well oh well never mind so I

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wanted to catch up with you a couple of

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things uh you mentioned to me the just

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the other the day that it's

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15 years since the kits Miller versus

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Dover and just for people who don't know

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briefly can you explain that and why it

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was such an important case it's actually

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17 years 70 because it would we I was

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telling you about the 15-year reunion

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but it was really the 15 years plus two

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because we had to move it for coveted

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purposes but no the trial was in 2005

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and its significance was that it was the

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first and thus far only thank goodness

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um uh trial in this case uh District

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statement you know District Court a

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federal district court of whether it is

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legal to teach intelligent design

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creationism in the public schools in the

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United States and big surprise it wasn't

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the judge who best who actually is a

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republican judge appointed by a

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Republican president

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um the uh he had he had actually run for

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political office in Pennsylvania uh but

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a judge that looked at the evidence

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dispassionately and although a

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did not believe that the First Amendment

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of the United States Constitution The

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Establishment Clause thereof allows the

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what is basically a disguised religious

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or any other discipline you cannot

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of the United States full stop

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uh that unfortunately may be changing

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so you are there you go there was a case

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um religious rights if you will of a

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high school football coach who wanted to

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pray on the on the football field after

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the game yes yeah well it was a big case

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creation and evolution issue

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earlier precedent a case called Lemon

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practice violates the First Amendment

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every single case that's been that's

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creationism has been based upon Lemon

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versus kurtzman right and all of a

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sudden the Supreme Court says Nope you

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can't use that as president anymore

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instead of using this three-part test

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tradition

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now that is around that is a recipe for

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disaster that that is that is throwing

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up a big neon sign flashing cherry pick

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your heart out uh because

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does that then it's unconstitutional

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it was it was history and tradition back

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Christian in the United States which

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does not make this a Christian Nation by

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the way and that's another little

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um uh and when you know when uh prayer

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public school system of course that was

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much later uh but where you know was

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traditional to pray uh all the time to

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pray in school and they would there was

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no science being taught there was no

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wanted to know how did the Earth get

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special creation was considered how

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everything came about so is that history

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and tradition is that what we should go

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back to no so it is very scary and I'm

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I'm sure it's not just those of us on

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our side of this issue who are saying uh

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oh what's going to happen next does this

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mean the creationists are going to gear

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up again for future attacks on the

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public schools to try to get creationism

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back in or try to get you know Evolution

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discredited which is the you know what

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they have been doing although you know

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the the quite honestly you were asking

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we got started on this rant by talking

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about what is the significance of kid

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smeller well the main significance is

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that the traditional creation science

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special creation young Earth creationism

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that is pretty familiar and found in a

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number of museums in the United States

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that had pretty much been smacked down

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out of the schools they're they're

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coming up saying well we should teach

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that the Earth was created in six days

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you know nobody was saying that anymore

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the courts but this newfangled

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intelligent design creation which popped

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until the 90s and the 2000s right

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kismillah was 2005. yeah so you know 17

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um but this newfangled creation science

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it was sorry intelligent design it was

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marketed as something and Now for

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intelligent design well it was you know

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you before some years ago one of the

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was you mentioned a book that was

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produced for intelligent design where

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the computer and simply removed the word

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creationism out or something that was

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one of the um one of the things that we

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um under um you know in preparation for

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the trial we had managed to acquire a

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series of drafts of manuscripts of a

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textbook that the intelligent design

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proponents had produced called of pandas

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and people or opap as we referred to it

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regularly but we were able to show that

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uh pandas and people had started out as

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a creation science book you know and

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this and that and and as the you know

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with its um Louisiana decision uh

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striking down the teaching of creation

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science in the public schools suddenly

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the next episode you know the next

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manuscript after the uh that particular

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court decision changed wording in a very

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um rather the the explicitly creationist

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uh language was uh was taken out and it

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was very clear when because we we could

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we could literally Trace sentence by

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sentence changes and there was one

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change that that a lot of people know

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about because it is so funny but which

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we actually didn't use in the trial

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because we figured it was just Overkill

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ways that of pandas and people the

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intelligent design textbook right was

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it was just trying to disguise itself

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but there was this one passage where the

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which is I think what you're talking

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about where

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um the uh phrase in the in the earlier

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manuscript said you know

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creationists propose such and such and

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somebody had just done a block and paste

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yes

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um and generally speaking throughout the

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manuscript where it had previously said

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creationists proposed it now said

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intelligent design proponents propose

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except this one place where they just

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must have been in a hurry and where I

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guess the you know the word processing

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software was not as effects as efficient

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as it became later and it was literally

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black and paste some of us remember

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but they pasted in uh Intel you know

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design proponents but they kind of did

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it in the middle of the word so instead

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of design proponents propose it was

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could design proponentsists sort of

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plopping down in the middle of the word

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creationism which you know tickled Us

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near to death but we thought

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you know if if we put this in the in the

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trial as well the judge is just going to

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think we're piling on right and you know

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we and and because it is just so silly

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and ridiculous we we didn't want to

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change the tenor of our of our um uh

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approach you know we wanted them to we

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we wanted the judge to think that we

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were serious Scholars Etc et cetera but

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so funny no it's good that is just so

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funny yeah so

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um kids miller isn't still an important

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case because it basically kept

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intelligent design from spreading there

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were several

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um states that we knew of that were

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poised to introduce legislation there

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were some school districts that we

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already knew about that were all ready

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to LEAP into similar policies that the

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Dover School Board had proposed but once

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the district court decision came down

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I don't know I don't keep my finger on

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the pulse of the creationism as much as

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we used to in Australia especially

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because it's faded away it's faded away

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so much and should we be celebrating or

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is this a lull before the storm or

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what's this what's the situation and how

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are the how is the national Center for

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Science Education doing at the moment

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with all this oh they're doing fine um

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they have actually shifted a lot of

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their focus in the last

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um you know 10 years or so

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um from as much uh fighting creationism

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to helping teachers do a better job

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teaching of evolution of climate change

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of you know the nature of science which

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is good you know it we we always used to

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talk against at ncsc about you know we

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we hand out the fire extinguishers but

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what we really would like to do is clear

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the brush

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this is brush clearance stitch in time

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saves nine right well this is helping

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the teachers do a better job so that the

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brush fires don't start yeah so um uh

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you said the the pressure against

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teachers the pressure against school

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boards has diminished greatly in the

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last 10 years and it even started

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diminishing when uh when I was still at

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ncsc and that was you know I retired in

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2014 so you know that was a while ago

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um but uh and there you know there still

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have been every year there's still state

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legislatures that pass anti-science

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stuff and some of these more of them

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dealt with with climate change than

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evolution in the last 10 years

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and now we've got Kennedy versus

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Bremerton

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that's that case that I was describing

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with you know the high school football

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coach and the Striking down of Lemon

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versus kurtzman as a major

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um bulwark against Establishment Clause

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um uh violations

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so what is going to happen we're not

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going to go out and say try again but

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I'm sure the creationists have noticed

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they're not

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attention to these kinds of decisions so

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I would not be at all surprised if in

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some

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future Dover type School Board situation

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there isn't a

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or in some you know State Board of

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Education there isn't an effort to try

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to either propose some kind of

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creationism

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or

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try to diminish the teaching of

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evolution

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and I'm kind of leaning a little bit

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toward the ladder quite honestly because

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remember the if you don't remember

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you're not an American you don't have to

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remember but in the first amendment's

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religion clause it's got two parts oh

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yes the establishment it is no State

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admin agency can establish or promote

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religion in a public context and two the

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free exercise clause which means that no

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state agency or our body of government

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can inhibit the practice of religion

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right okay which is very important right

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you know we we want neutrality from our

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governments when it comes to religion

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unlike many nations around the world

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that's part of our history and tradition

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so if you look at the current Supreme

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Court

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their major Focus has largely been on

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free exercise issues they kind of been

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shoving

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of the free exercise clause

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and it would seem to me that

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there would I'm not going to suggest it

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for creationists let them do their own

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legal work you know I'm not a lawyer I

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always say don't take legal advice from

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a physical Anthropologist

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um but I would not be surprised if they

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weren't as we speak cooking up some kind

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of free exercise angle okay to go after

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Evolution because frankly if they just

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get Evolution out they win they don't

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have to get creative they've never had

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to get creationism in the only reason

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they went to try to promote creationism

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and intelligent design creationism is

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because Evolution was there if you get

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rid of evolution or you discredit it to

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the level that

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students aren't going to take it

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seriously you win

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so that has been their approach post

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Dover post kits Miller since 2005 and I

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think they're going to ramp that up and

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try to formalize it

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so watch this space

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next week in week in part two of my chat

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with Dr Eugenie Scott we talk about the

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ancient apocalypse Circle documentary

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series on Netflix is it just rehashing

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Ancient Aliens and eugenie's thoughts on

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debating

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creationists

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hi this is Rob Palmer I write the

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well-known skeptic column in skeptical

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Inquirer online and I'm a team member of

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project gsow but you find folks may know

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me because I contributed segments for

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several episodes of this podcast

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starting with episode 576 so here's a

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little known fact all of my skeptical

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gslw project right here back in 2012 due

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[Music]

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this is Adrian Hill from Canada here

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again to read the highlights from the

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but now let's see what Tim Mendham has

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for us this week

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hi all says Tim

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skepticon 2022 is over and we're sure

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that everyone attending in person and

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online found it a varied interesting and

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inspiring event

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attendees will be able to view the

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recorded sessions soon

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next year's skepticon will be in

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Melbourne keep your eyes peeled for date

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and venue

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note that this is the last newsletter

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for 2022. all we'll be back mid-January

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in the interim enjoy the holiday season

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and think about those poor psychics

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referred to later who obviously have no

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idea what they're getting for Christmas

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read on Tim okay Tim we'll do just that

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[Music]

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non-doctor Maria Carmela Powell wins

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2022 bent spoon

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coveted prize in the skeptical world has

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gone to Queensland fake medical doctor

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Maria Carmela Powell for Distributing

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coveted related exemptions and

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reportedly pocketing about a hundred and

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twenty thousand dollars for issuing 1200

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useless certificates Powell pleaded

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guilty in Southport magistrates Court in

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July to pretending to be a doctor and

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aiding people trying to dodge

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coronavirus restrictions she has a

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doctorate in professional research

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studies and also a master's degree in

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public health but that doesn't qualify

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her to act as a medical doctor despite

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her Barrister saying she might have been

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confused

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she also markets herself as an actress

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and model and has previously been

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described in court as a spiritual

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insights coach

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she had faced a maximum penalty of a

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sixty thousand dollar fine and three

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years imprisonment however acting

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magistrate Mark bambury Fine pow 25 000

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and no conviction was recorded there is

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no report on what happened to the rest

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of the hundred and twenty thousand

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dollars she earned with the false

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exemptions

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parents who refused A vaccinated blood

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transfusion

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such a sad story

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a baby in New Zealand has been placed in

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his doctor's care because his parents

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refused to consent to a transfusion of

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quote vaccinated blood end quote in a

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life-saving operation

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the judge noted that New Zealand's Blood

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Service had presented evidence from the

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past six months of a quote significant

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increase in potential blood recipients

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asking for blood from unvaccinated

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donors or asking about directed donation

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similar Trends have been noted in other

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countries end quote

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how unfortunate

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debunking autism myths rewarded with

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national prize

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[Music]

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a university of Queensland PhD student

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has been awarded a national prize for

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debunking a common myth about children

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with autism

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Chloe Yap from uq's Institute for

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molecular bioscience and made her

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research won the 2022 CSL Florey Next

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Generation award which includes a prize

562
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of twenty thousand dollars for busting

563
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the myth that the gut microbiome causes

564
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autism Ms Yap and her colleagues found

565
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that changes in gut bacteria in children

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with autism are instead caused by their

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eating habits wow interesting

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Q anons anti-vaxxer murder Theory

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members of the Q Anon conspiracy

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movement have suggested that the actress

571
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Kirsty alley was murdered because of her

572
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anti-vaxx views Ali had spread multiple

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conspiracy theories on her social media

574
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channels in recent years about covid-19

575
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and vaccines

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conspiracists claimed that she was

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possibly murdered because of her

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outspoken criticism of the vaccines or

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that she was forcibly given one and it

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killed her

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Ali was 71 and had apparently been

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suffering colon cancer for some time

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quote material detector end quote to

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eradicate pseudoscience

585
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the online Integrity Center is

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developing tools to help Publishers of

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scientific journals fight fake searches

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and image manipulation it is the result

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of a year-long collaboration between 24

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Publishers and providers of academic

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analysis together they are trying to end

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the growing scourge of manufactured

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scientific articles from quote paper

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mills end quote

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over the last years the magazines have

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withdrawn hundreds of Articles fearing

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the work contain fabricated data and

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images as a result Publishers have tried

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to bolster their defenses to prevent

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such articles from passing through their

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submission systems

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[Music]

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Netflix's ancient apocalypse uses quote

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racist ideologies end quote

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Netflix's new series ancient apocalypse

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which suggests that it is unlikely local

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populations could have built certain

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ancient structures has been criticized

609
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by experts on Pacific history who say it

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is founded on racist and white

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supremacist ideologies and promotes

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pseudoscience the series thesis is

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bolstered by errors of fact including

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the predating of the building's date of

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the psychic and the social engineer

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this is an article on cold reading and

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how it is used similarly by psychics and

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social Engineers quote both use

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techniques such as using social cues

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making broad statements and using

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probability to create the illusion of

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credibility there are many overlapping

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skills used by psychics and social

624
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Engineers always remember knowledge and

625
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skill have the best results when used

626
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psychology class considers pseudoscience

627
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the chair of the State University of New

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York Cortland psychology department has

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joined with students who are looking

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into the characteristics of

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pseudoscience and have helped write

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columns for the skeptical Inquirer it is

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part of the psychology of pseudoscience

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a class Craig Barker the chair of the

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school taught during a previous semester

636
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in hopes to make a permanent part of the

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curriculum

638
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Foster noted that social psychology

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examines how situations influence human

640
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thought emotion and behavior

641
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likewise social influence can cause

642
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reasonable intelligent people to believe

643
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in pseudoscience which is why he feels

644
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it is important for students to improve

645
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their critical thinking and avoid

646
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falling for current or future falsehoods

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[Music]

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psychic predictions exposed

649
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The Great Australian psychic prediction

650
00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:17,539
project or gapp

651
00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:19,620
analyzed all psychic predictions

652
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,380
broadcast in Australia over a decade to

653
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see if they were accurate see the

654
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December 2021 issue of the skeptic Rob

655
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:30,539
Palmer from the center for inquiry USA

656
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shares the results of the project helm

657
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:35,640
by noted Australian skeptic Richard

658
00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:39,120
Saunders to reveal the true accuracy of

659
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psychic predictions the first 16 minutes

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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:44,580
of the video cover the project

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[Music]

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Communications such as the magazine or

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686
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news leads should be sent to news tips

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at

689
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skeptics.com.au submissions for the

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magazine Etc should go to editor

691
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skeptics.com.edu comments and

692
00:31:01,820 --> 00:30:59,159
suggestions should also go to editor

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skeptics.com.au

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[Music]

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items of Interest

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00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:10,740
stunning UFO encounters caught on

697
00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:12,059
cameras

698
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:15,720
not really that stunning the production

699
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,880
is a lot more sophisticated than the UFO

700
00:31:23,289 --> 00:31:20,220
clips though it uses that annoying

701
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:23,299
technique of shaky handheld camera work

702
00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,000
designed to add realism

703
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:29,640
hasn't anyone heard of a tripod

704
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:32,100
maybe trying to match the quality of the

705
00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:34,440
studio work with the quality of the UFO

706
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,870
films might be a good idea

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[Music]

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psychic animals and some humans on the

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World Cup

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this is continuing our look at some

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00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:48,000
highly undistinguished psychic

712
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predictions from animals and people on

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the football World Cup

714
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,159
and keep in mind the results of the

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Great Australian psychic prediction

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00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:00,120
project that we mentioned before

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so it's not very promising

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[Music]

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00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,460
well Alfie the alpaca is having a bad

720
00:32:14,330 --> 00:32:10,799
run having predicted that England would

721
00:32:16,669 --> 00:32:14,340
lose to Iran when England won 6-2 he

722
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:16,679
then did a complete about face and said

723
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:20,700
England would beat France and they lost

724
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:22,440
a psychic seal

725
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:25,919
Nana also predicted the England win

726
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:28,980
and lost

727
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,000
ciao boy a lion at a zoo in Thailand did

728
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,799
predict the French win but also

729
00:32:39,409 --> 00:32:37,140
predicted that France would be the only

730
00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:39,419
European country in the final four

731
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:42,779
wrong Croatia also qualified and that

732
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:45,299
the four would include Brazil

733
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,640
wrong again they lost in the

734
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,440
quarterfinals

735
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:51,600
if you really want to pursue the psychic

736
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:53,340
animal Sega there's an interesting

737
00:33:00,409 --> 00:32:56,580
article on their past performances on

738
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,419
The Human Side Canadian Anthony Carr the

739
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:03,120
quote modern day Nostradamus end quote

740
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:05,940
who was a side note I've never heard of

741
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:08,039
who claims to have predicted a slew of

742
00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:10,200
world events from September 11th to the

743
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,659
election of a German Pope predicted an

744
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England wind at the World Cup and

745
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:17,940
therefore is as accurate as an alpaca

746
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:26,029
by the way his prediction of 9 11 is not

747
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:28,740
as precise as he might claim he foresaw

748
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,059
a quote cataclysmic Cosmic event end

749
00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:35,760
quote and warned people should quote

750
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:38,100
watch for a sign in the heavens end

751
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:40,860
quote because what was coming would

752
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:44,279
quote shock the whole world end quote

753
00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:47,460
and quote put the fear of God in us end

754
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:49,380
quote

755
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:52,980
for the record Mystic veg the asparagus

756
00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:55,320
thrower correctly predicted that England

757
00:34:00,830 --> 00:33:58,140
would be out in the quarterfinals

758
00:34:03,049 --> 00:34:00,840
one theory about the poor performance of

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England in the cup is because of the

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choice of TV channels showing the games

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when an England World Cup match is shown

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00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:11,159
on the BBC

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00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:14,940
England has a 75 winning record however

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on ITV that falls to just

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13.33 percent

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and finally exhibiting a distinctly poor

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appreciation of maths and statistics

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qatar's giant pandas thorea and suhail

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quote gained Fame during the World Cup

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00:34:41,629 --> 00:34:37,200
2022 by correctly predicting the outcome

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00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:41,639
of 11 out of 24 matches end quote

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00:34:46,609 --> 00:34:45,179
in a two-horse race 11 out of 24 is less

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than 50 percent

774
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a banana could do better than that

775
00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:54,000
and finally finally a self-proclaimed

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time traveler who shared alleged video

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footage from the football tournament

778
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three weeks in the future

779
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,040
divined a massive win for Brazil he must

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have been looking at the wrong future TV

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channel maybe it was ITV

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[Music]

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silliest story of the week

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I didn't know it could get more silly

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psychic medium supported by Spirits

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against fear of haircuts

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there is such a thing as a fear of

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haircuts known as tantrophobia but

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psychic Tracy May says it is quote

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nothing to be laughed about end quote

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and wishes people would stop treating it

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as a joke she thinks that seeing clips

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00:35:50,030 --> 00:35:47,760
of the film Edward Scissorhands may be

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one of the primary causes

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she hasn't yet been able to find an

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effective treatment but she said Spirits

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have supported her reassuring her that

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quote it's going to be okay end quote

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she has tried putting crystals in her

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bra using essential oils and doing

801
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breathing exercises to calm herself down

802
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but nothing has completely treated her

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phobia maybe it's not her tantrophobia

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well that's all for now and this is

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Adrian Hill signing off with a public

806
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service announcement this time if you

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are out photographing beautiful mountain

808
00:36:35,089 --> 00:36:32,099
surroundings on a very cold morning and

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assume you're on land at a lake because

810
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of how the snow ended in a ridge along

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the ice on the lake do not trust it

812
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:44,579
you could be on the lake ice and have

813
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,160
one foot fall through and yes this

814
00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:49,920
happened to me this past weekend frankly

815
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it was a frightening experience that I

816
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don't recommend duplicating I was with

817
00:36:58,190 --> 00:36:55,800
others and of course the water level was

818
00:37:00,530 --> 00:36:58,200
below my knee but our wonderful day

819
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:00,540
ended abruptly in order to dump out

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Mucky stinky cold water from my boot and

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to warm me up

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stay safe everyone

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[Music]

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Radford co-host the scoring strange

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podcast

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in these trying times as we help each

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other out to hold on to hope we want you

828
00:37:28,849 --> 00:37:26,400
to know that we're here for you hey hey

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00:37:30,829 --> 00:37:28,859
what are you going on about who's

830
00:37:34,510 --> 00:37:30,839
interrupting my heart promotional copy

831
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:34,520
it's me Celestia Ward your co-host

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00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:38,099
really in these trying times that's the

833
00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:40,500
best you can do well I'm just doing what

834
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:42,680
everyone else is doing I thought

835
00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:45,359
that's not what we do

836
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:47,220
oh for crying out loud who else is here

837
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:51,119
Pasquale Romero your other co-host hey

838
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:54,060
we don't do what everybody else does Ben

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that's kind of our thing at squaring the

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00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:58,560
strange yeah we try to approach things a

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00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,119
little differently than your standard

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00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:03,359
skeptical Tucky talk show we do our own

843
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,640
thing bringing science critical thinking

844
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,160
and skepticism to bear on issues of the

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00:38:13,130 --> 00:38:10,320
day we've got a professional skeptical

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00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,140
author Ben who has Decades of experience

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00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,079
researching topics for a dozen books and

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00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:18,720
thousands of Articles and a cartoonist

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00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:20,460
skeptic Celestia who knows her stuff

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00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:22,260
when it comes to facial weirdness and

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00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:24,540
the psychology of perception and a

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00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:26,820
badass heavy metal rock star and Tech

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00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:28,920
engineer Pasquale who brings knowledge

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00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:30,900
of all things Audio Plus a bunch of neck

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00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:33,480
tattoos scoring the strange explores

856
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:35,700
topics both mysterious and mundane

857
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:38,460
through a critical lens monsters panics

858
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,690
trying times promo idea but we have

859
00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:47,280
chupacabras and clown panics right yes

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00:39:02,790 --> 00:38:49,300
yes then

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00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,890
[Music]

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00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:06,000
now it's time once again to dive into

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00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,380
those pages at Trove at

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00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:11,280
trove.nla.gov dot a u the online

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resource from the Australian government

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00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:14,460
and the National Library of Australia

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thank you thank you can you hear me

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00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:18,060
those good people over there at the

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00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:19,380
National Library thank you for

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00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:22,680
digitizing millions millions of Articles

871
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:25,800
reports and so on from magazines and

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00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:28,200
journals and newspapers but this week

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00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,599
we're going to start we're going to

874
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:32,880
start at the Skeptics dictionary because

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00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:36,960
the subject this week is Crystal healing

876
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,200
or crystal energy Crystal power and in

877
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:42,240
the Skeptics dictionary we read Crystal

878
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:43,619
power

879
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:46,619
a crystal is a solid formed by the

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00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:49,320
solidification of chemicals as a regular

881
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:51,900
repeating internal arrangement of atoms

882
00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:54,720
and molecules and is bounded by external

883
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,380
plane faces Crystal particles form a

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00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:00,480
variety of geometrical shapes due to

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00:40:07,730 --> 00:40:03,960
their internal compressions crystals

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00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:07,740
have aesthetic properties that have long

887
00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:10,619
made them attractive in jewelry very

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00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:13,140
true but they also have some properties

889
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,060
that make them very important to the

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00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:17,760
electronics and Optical Industries the

891
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:19,740
day crystals are used in just about

892
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:21,780
every type of modern technology

893
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:24,720
for centuries crystals and other gems

894
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:27,420
have been desired for their alleged

895
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:30,119
magical healing and mystical paranormal

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00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:32,940
Powers this belief continues today among

897
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:36,060
occultists and New Age healers even

898
00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:37,680
though it's based on nothing more than

899
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,960
testimonials the placebo effect

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00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,240
selective thinking wishful thinking

901
00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:44,880
subjective validation sympathetic magic

902
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,660
and communal reinforcement there is no

903
00:40:53,329 --> 00:40:50,400
scientific evidence that crystals are

904
00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,339
conduits of magical energies useful for

905
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:55,859
healing and protection or foretelling

906
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:57,660
the future

907
00:41:03,890 --> 00:41:01,260
we can dismiss the pre-scientific belief

908
00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:03,900
in magical powers of crystals and

909
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:06,900
gemstones as due to a lack of scientific

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00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:09,380
knowledge modern occultists however

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00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:12,119
distort and falsify scientific knowledge

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00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:14,339
in order to promote belief in their

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00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:16,380
Crystal products according to the

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00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:18,440
purveyors of this crystalline

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00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:21,540
pseudoscience crystals Channel good

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00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,520
energy and ward off bad energy they can

917
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:30,000
carry vibrations that resonate with

918
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:32,760
healing frequencies all of course is

919
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,140
just word salad

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00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:36,720
work with the chakras and help balance

921
00:41:42,349 --> 00:41:39,780
yin and yang crystals allegedly affect

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00:41:45,290 --> 00:41:42,359
the emotions and can be used not only

923
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:45,300
for physical healing but for emotional

924
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:48,599
problems as well crystals can not only

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00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,240
help with the emotional healing but with

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00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:54,000
self-expression creativity meditation

927
00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:56,820
and the immune system none of these

928
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:00,119
claims is backed up by any scientific

929
00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:04,079
evidence today Crystal wands are used to

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00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,220
heal auras in Aura therapy but one of

931
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:10,800
the more egregious pseudoscientific

932
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:13,320
claims regarding crystals is that if

933
00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:15,060
arranged properly they can provide

934
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:16,820
protection against harmful

935
00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:19,500
electromagnetic forces such as those

936
00:42:24,829 --> 00:42:21,900
that are emitted by computer monitors

937
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:24,839
cellular phones microwave ovens hair

938
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,260
dryers power lines and other people

939
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:31,440
The bioelectric Shield was invented by a

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00:42:36,170 --> 00:42:33,720
chiropractor from Montana Charles Brown

941
00:42:40,609 --> 00:42:36,180
who claimed he heard voices in his head

942
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,619
and had Visions in his bed as to how to

943
00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:42,839
arrange crystals in the shape of a

944
00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:45,060
flying saucer in order to provide

945
00:42:51,950 --> 00:42:48,599
protection his bioelectric Shields are

946
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:51,960
sold for anywhere from 139 dollars to

947
00:42:57,710 --> 00:42:55,020
over a thousand dollars Claire Blair the

948
00:42:59,930 --> 00:42:57,720
wife of the former prime minister of the

949
00:43:03,710 --> 00:42:59,940
UK wears one of these magical pendants

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00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:03,720
they are said to be medically proven and

951
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,180
based on Nobel prize-winning physics

952
00:43:11,569 --> 00:43:08,880
even if the claims about the protective

953
00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:11,579
power of these pendants were true it

954
00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:14,700
would be necessary to envelop your

955
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:17,220
entire body in one to achieve the

956
00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:20,220
desired result by hanging a little piece

957
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,740
of jewelry around the neck you might be

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00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:24,480
able to protect a small part of the

959
00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:27,540
throat however so that's what the

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00:43:31,309 --> 00:43:29,460
Skeptics addiction dictionary has to say

961
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,319
about Crystal power Crystal healing

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00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:34,319
crystal energy let's see what the papers

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00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:35,400
say

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00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:37,740
[Music]

965
00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:40,140
and our first result comes from the port

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00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,300
Lincoln times in South Australia dated

967
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:44,480
the 25th of February

968
00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:48,599
1992 so over 30 years ago

969
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:52,700
and the article is called air house it's

970
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:56,700
e-y-r-e quest for health

971
00:44:03,050 --> 00:44:00,060
natural healing is an effective way to

972
00:44:05,569 --> 00:44:03,060
reduce stress pain and Achieve total

973
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,579
relaxation for people who are looking

974
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,920
for Alternative Health measures a house

975
00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:10,800
can assist General Practitioners in the

976
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,099
Quest for their patients Total Health a

977
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,800
health center of Natural Health offers a

978
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,900
comprehensive list of natural healing

979
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:20,160
services

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00:44:26,450 --> 00:44:23,579
floatation therapy a relaxation method

981
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:26,460
for the mind and body patients spend

982
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:30,540
about one hour in a tank floating on

983
00:44:36,349 --> 00:44:33,420
buoyant liquid this environment causes

984
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,359
the body and mind to go into natural and

985
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:38,400
very deep relaxation

986
00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:41,220
flotation is completely safe even in

987
00:44:46,849 --> 00:44:43,740
pregnancy now just stop here to say I

988
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:46,859
did this many years ago many years ago I

989
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:50,280
think sometime during the 1980s I had a

990
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,260
couple of sessions in a float tank and

991
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,900
without doubt it was very restful

992
00:44:58,849 --> 00:44:56,640
calming

993
00:45:01,490 --> 00:44:58,859
um and quite a nice experience but I

994
00:45:03,309 --> 00:45:01,500
certainly don't wouldn't attribute any

995
00:45:05,690 --> 00:45:03,319
Miracle Health

996
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:05,700
outcomes to it it was just a very

997
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:09,300
pleasant experience yoga a gentle

998
00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:11,460
exercise for all ages and is

999
00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:13,859
particularly helpful in arthritis and

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00:45:19,870 --> 00:45:16,980
limited Mobility patients yoga will

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00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:19,880
Revitalize Your Body by introducing deep

1002
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:22,020
rhythmic breathing

1003
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:24,660
it will increase blood circulation

1004
00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:27,480
taking more oxygen to the body tissues

1005
00:45:35,089 --> 00:45:31,339
and tone the muscles and nerves

1006
00:45:37,210 --> 00:45:35,099
yoga will Aid the digestion and

1007
00:45:40,490 --> 00:45:37,220
elimination of food

1008
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,500
as a consequence a person feels

1009
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:43,040
healthier and happier

1010
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:47,040
naturopath patients are offered an

1011
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:48,900
all-round healing treatment including

1012
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:52,079
massage and assessment of bodily

1013
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,920
functions via the invaluable tool of

1014
00:46:02,270 --> 00:45:58,800
Iris diagnosis

1015
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,280
iridology dietary recommendations can be

1016
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:05,760
made to suit specific needs and herbal

1017
00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:08,339
medicine homeopathic remedies Wildflower

1018
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:10,859
Essence and vitamin supplements can be

1019
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:13,920
prescribed in many cases healing can be

1020
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:16,800
accelerated with the application of

1021
00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:19,560
suitable poultices which are easily

1022
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,500
prepared and applied at home

1023
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:25,200
Beauty therapists specializing in all

1024
00:46:30,349 --> 00:46:27,780
aspects of beauty therapy with special

1025
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:30,359
consideration to Skin Care especially

1026
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:33,960
through facials using Marine products

1027
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:37,440
okay great for acne sufferers cellulite

1028
00:46:44,890 --> 00:46:42,000
problems or any skin condition facials

1029
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:44,900
are offered for a luxurious Beauty boost

1030
00:46:51,410 --> 00:46:49,200
and are coupled with skin care analysis

1031
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,420
including diet advice

1032
00:46:55,690 --> 00:46:54,000
this is an interesting list I hope we

1033
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,700
get to the crystals

1034
00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:58,319
facial and body waxing pedicures

1035
00:47:03,950 --> 00:47:01,800
manicures eyelash tinting and cellulite

1036
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:03,960
massage are available traditional

1037
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:05,460
Chinese massage

1038
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,160
it is delivered with the sole intention

1039
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:10,560
of motivating liberating and utilizing

1040
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:13,260
resources within the body in such a way

1041
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:15,420
that does not abnormally

1042
00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:17,579
artificially accelerate or otherwise

1043
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,500
impede the natural healing processes

1044
00:47:23,809 --> 00:47:21,839
this is reading just like an advertising

1045
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,819
blurb isn't it

1046
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,920
it really is

1047
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,440
what does it say at the top oh well it

1048
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:30,480
does say advertising features so there

1049
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:32,280
we go I might skip all the other bits

1050
00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:35,000
that talk about Reiki

1051
00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:38,599
and what's this natural

1052
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:40,940
nutritional analysis

1053
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:43,200
ah here we go

1054
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,500
Crystal healing a fast yet gentle

1055
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:48,960
balancing of the body's energy Fields

1056
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:52,800
both physical and subtle there are no

1057
00:47:58,670 --> 00:47:55,800
side effects while the benefit is an

1058
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,680
acceleration of healing in all areas of

1059
00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:00,960
Medicine

1060
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:04,140
and it goes on health education

1061
00:48:12,550 --> 00:48:08,880
Tai Chi etc etc now this dates from

1062
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,560
this dates from 1992

1063
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,200
and I

1064
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:18,000
would probably have to say that even

1065
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:20,280
today you can probably find such

1066
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:22,740
outrageous claims being made in

1067
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:23,880
newspapers

1068
00:48:27,309 --> 00:48:26,460
under the guise of advertising or

1069
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:27,319
whatever

1070
00:48:32,990 --> 00:48:29,819
outrageous and ridiculous claims that

1071
00:48:36,170 --> 00:48:33,000
we've just heard including of course

1072
00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:36,180
Crystal healing and next we look at the

1073
00:48:43,089 --> 00:48:38,700
pages of thranka from the University of

1074
00:48:48,770 --> 00:48:43,099
New South Wales dated the 11th of April

1075
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:48,780
1989 and a feature called The New Age

1076
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:52,200
which goes on to talk about the various

1077
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:53,760
alternative methods of healing

1078
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:55,740
acupuncture Homeopathy medical

1079
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,200
hypnotherapy hydrotherapy herbalist

1080
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:01,680
Chiropractic osteopathy Zone therapy

1081
00:49:07,849 --> 00:49:04,140
Zone therapy

1082
00:49:09,309 --> 00:49:07,859
I want Zone okay sure not the skeptic

1083
00:49:14,210 --> 00:49:09,319
Zone therapy

1084
00:49:17,089 --> 00:49:14,220
uh naturopathy iridology molecular

1085
00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:17,099
medicine biofeedback biofeedback that's

1086
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:19,619
an old one negative ion therapy colon

1087
00:49:25,089 --> 00:49:22,619
irrigation talks about those but here's

1088
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:25,099
the part where it discusses crystals

1089
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,500
crystals using crystals for healing is

1090
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:31,440
the most controversial aspect of new

1091
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:34,200
ageism Believers claim scientific

1092
00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:37,980
support for Crystal healing in the fact

1093
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,980
that industry has long used quartz

1094
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:43,200
crystals as a means of focusing and

1095
00:49:49,370 --> 00:49:46,260
transforming energy a tiny slice of

1096
00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:49,380
quartz in a micro circuit increases

1097
00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:52,920
electrical signal when cut into precise

1098
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:56,819
shapes quartz vibrates at precise rates

1099
00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:00,000
and transforms electricity into waves

1100
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:02,520
which can be broadcast as in the radio

1101
00:50:06,589 --> 00:50:04,500
and television signals

1102
00:50:08,890 --> 00:50:06,599
quartz changes solar energy into

1103
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,900
electricity in devices called

1104
00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:10,920
photovoltaic cells

1105
00:50:16,609 --> 00:50:15,660
it is a large leap from here cries the

1106
00:50:19,309 --> 00:50:16,619
cynic

1107
00:50:20,329 --> 00:50:19,319
to certification of sublime healing

1108
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:20,339
power

1109
00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:22,680
for the new ages however it's simply a

1110
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,220
logical progression the physical body is

1111
00:50:32,089 --> 00:50:29,520
the end result of energy the total human

1112
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:32,099
is a series of energy systems

1113
00:50:36,410 --> 00:50:34,260
interconnecting the Mind emotions and

1114
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:36,420
the body crystals because they can

1115
00:50:41,930 --> 00:50:39,300
amplify energy interact with these

1116
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:41,940
Energy Systems and in conjunction with

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the Mind create functional changes which

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will then manifest in the physical body

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simply hold the crystal in your left

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hand feel it pulsing or maybe you just

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feel your own pulse when you do that

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with your life force and hey Presto

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you're cured purple quartz will clear

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headaches rose quartz will balance the

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love emotions and clear quartz will give

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you that all-important body energization

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James proprietor of essential energies a

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retail outlet on Glee Point Road

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offering

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practitioners Services course and

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workshops for the new Ager attests to

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the power of crystals recently when

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searching for a Sydney Abode he

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dedicated a crystal to ensure that his

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particular demands were met two bedrooms

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with a harbor view all at a certain

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price the energy of the crystal he

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explained is

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directionalized into the Circuit of the

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brain

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while the footwork was all his his

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success in attaining the lease ahead of

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six other candidates was all the

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crystals workings the article does go on

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a bit more about other things but the

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conclusion is new ageism

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is not a cohesive all-embracing

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philosophy some take up only those parts

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of the lifestyle and philosophies that

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they find useful many may eat whole

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grain and do yoga but still maintain an

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interest in the world outside their

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Serene flipper communing Crystal

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pulsating

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self-obsessed head spaces

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it's an interesting article and the

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byline is Tamara I don't know who who

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foreign

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of the Millions

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millions of Articles at your fingertips

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if you go to

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trovertrove.nla.gov dot are you type in

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your search and you never know what you

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might find

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[Applause]

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